NATIONAL PARLIAMENT OF
DAILY HANSARD
FIRST MEETING – EIGHTH
SESSION
The Speaker, Rt Hon Sir Peter Kenilorea took the Chair
at
ATTENDANCE
At prayers all Members were present with the exception
of the Members for
ADMINISTRATION
OF OATH
(The
Member of Parliament for
ELECTION
OF DEPUTY SPEAKER
Mr Speaker: Before the
election of the Deputy Speaker, a point of privilege relating to the election
has been again raised by the Honourable Member for Nende, and I have given him
leave to raise the matter.
Mr OTI: Mr Speaker, thank you for
granting me permission to raise a matter of privilege under Standing Order 25.
Mr Speaker, I mentioned yesterday in
a statement I raised under this Order that the absence of the Member for
Mr Speaker, as of today as you have
just confirmed, the Member for Central Honiara is not yet with us, and as we have
also learned, as of yesterday afternoon after the proceedings of Parliament,
the MP for East Honiara has also been remanded in custody for questioning. Mr Speaker, that further erodes the privilege
that would have otherwise been accorded to me under the election of the Deputy
Speaker.
Mr Speaker, at this point also I
wish to make a statement that should this situation continue, and I am not
making reference to the taking into custody of the two Members of Parliament,
but I would like to draw the attention of Parliament to your clarification
yesterday under section 70 of the Constitution whereby Parliament Meetings such
as these are open to the public.
Mr Speaker, as we all know as of
last night the Commissioner of Police continues to reiterate that the meeting
of Parliament to elect the Deputy Speaker, contrary to your assurance still
states that the meeting today is a closed meeting.
Mr Speaker, who is the real
authority in Parliament? Who? Who is the real authority in Parliament, the
Parliament of Solomon Islands? Is it you
Mr Speaker? Of course, Mr Speaker, under
the Preservation of National Security and Public Safety Act and the regulations
which emanate there from, the Commissioner of Police has the responsibility to
ensure that the mechanism is in place which would enable people to come to
their Parliament. Unfortunately, Mr
Speaker, the way it was relayed on the media leaves no chance for
interpretation by the public, and this Parliament no longer belongs to the
people of
This Parliament has been
hijacked. This Parliament has become a
parliament that does not belong to the people of
A Member objecting: (That is what
you want)
Mr Speaker, tell
me when are we going to take control of ourselves? Can you tell me?
Mr Speaker, because my right and the rights of the people of
Thank you, Mr Speaker.
(hear, hear)
Mr Speaker: I thank the
MP for Temotu Nende. Firstly let us get
the first issue right. In Parliament,
certainly the Speaker has all the authority in Parliament. Outside Parliament, in dealing with security
matters, under section 43 of the Constitution the Commissioner of Police has
total independence in operational matters.
I think we should understand the difference between what is in
Parliament and outside of Parliament.
(hear, hear)
Secondly, whilst I fully understand
the intention of a level playing field for matters of today’s election, I would
like to refer Honourable Members, and I am sure the honourable Member who
raised the point also alerted me to it yesterday that he understands the
separation of powers under the preambles of the Constitution, and
(Mr Oti interjecting) What belongs to Parliament is Parliament’s
and not the Commissioner of Police.
that relates to the
legislature, the executive and the judiciary.
It is in this context that I do not see the work of the judiciary should
interfere with the proceedings of Parliament, and therefore I rule that we must
proceed with today’s business. If we are
not careful and confuse ourselves with the three arms of the government, and
making the judiciary not independent, then of course the executive government
might interfere with judiciary and the citizens of this country might not have
confidence in the judiciary and the court system.
If the court system is allowed to
intervene with the legislative process they would be able to prevent elected Members
from passing laws in this honourable House.
If Parliament is allowed to debate a particular court case it could
undermine a fair trial by influencing the judge.
I therefore feel we must maintain the separation of powers under our
Constitution. So whilst I fully
appreciate what is happening and the need for a level playing field in this
situation, we cannot wait on either the performance or lack of it by the
judiciary for Parliament business to proceed.
I rule today that Parliament must proceed with its business, one of
which is the election of the Deputy Speaker.
Thank you.
Mr ULUFA’ALU: Point of
Order, Mr Speaker. Whilst respecting
your ruling, the matters that prejudice the interest of the particular Members
and the actions of the judiciary on law and order are not justified in terms of
the offences they are facing.
There are people charged for murder that the judiciary and law and
order is yet to get them. These men are
not dangerous criminals and they are not yet criminals. They are merely suspects and therefore they
should be allowed to perform their functions in Parliament. They have all the time in the world to bring
all of us to justice, but should not exercise it so as to be seen to be interfering
with the normal function of the legislature.
It is in this context Mr Speaker,
that I appeal to Members of this Parliament who has a drop of
(23
Opposition Members walked out of the Chamber)
Mr Speaker: Thank you
honourable Member for Aoke/Langa Langa.
Our Constitution provides for recourse of breaches of the
Constitution. If honourable Members feel
their personal rights under the Constitution has been breached, there is
recourse under section 83 of the Constitution to ensure that their rights are
properly established.
We shall now proceed with the
election of the Deputy Speaker. Could we
ensure we have a quorum to start with Honourable Prime Minister before we
proceed?
Hon RINI: Mr Speaker, yes I go along
with your ruling that we have the quorum here, and so we can proceed on with
today’s parliamentary business.
Mr Speaker:
The quorum should be half the Members of Parliament, not absolute
majority, and it is under section 67, not less than half of all the
Members. Yes, we do have a quorum.
The Clerk to National
Parliament briefs Members of Parliament on the election of the Deputy Speaker
Hon FONO: Mr Speaker, just a point for
clarification. What does “absolute
majority” constitute? Is it Members who
are present? Can we consider in view of
the two Members of Parliament who are not available in the House this morning,
reduce the total number of Members present to 48 instead of 50?
Mr Speaker: If it is
absolute majority of votes then it is the votes of those present and
voting. Not absolute majority of all
Members of Parliament.
(Election of the Deputy Speaker commences)
Mr
Speaker: The result of the election of the Deputy
Speaker this morning is that after the first round and due to the situation we
are aware of, the Opposition has left the room.
The Honorable Sir Allan Kemakeza is elected by 25 votes and therefore
elected as the Deputy Speaker.
Hon Sir Allan Kemakeza was
elected as Deputy Speaker of the National Parliament of
STATEMENT BY THE MINISTER FOR
DEPARTMENT OF POLICE AND NATIONAL SECURITY
Hon HAOMAE: Mr Speaker, I
rise to make a statement under Standing Order 24 to clarify Security Measures
that are currently put in place to maintain Law and Order in
Mr Speaker, because of the violence the Capital saw last week, His
Excellency, the Governor General made a Declaration that a public emergency
exists in
Mr Speaker, this action means that there are strict restrictions that
apply to the area described in the Notice.
These areas include the Central Business District and
Mr Speaker, let me make it clear beyond any shade of doubt that anyone,
(and I mean anyone) be they political leaders or ordinary persons, who tries to
prevent the police or the military who are here at the moment from doing their
duty will be breaking the law.
Under these emergency provisions, if the Police or military reasonably
suspects that there may be things somewhere that are connected to criminal
activity they can enter and search for those things without a warrant. To help prevent drunkenness and violent
behavour witnessed last week, alcohol is not allowed to be sold.
Mr Speaker, even though that by not allowing people to move around
Mr Speaker, the Constitution is very clear on this point. The role of the Royal Solomon Islands Police
(RSIP) is to uphold and maintain the Laws of Solomon Islands and to execute the
Laws of the Office faithfully and diligently without fear or favour to any
person.
The Law applies to everyone including Ministers of the Crown, Back
Benchers of the Government or Members of the Opposition Bench. Any Government Minister who is in breach of
the Law will be dealt with accordingly.
The Office of the Commissioner of Police is an independent
Constitutional appointment and cannot be directed by politics or anyone outside
the Royal Solomon Islands Police. I have
taken the Oath of Allegiance to uphold and protect the Constitution in this
Country and as long as I am the Minister for Police and National Security,
things will remain that way.
Mr Speaker, for the benefit of our citizens who may not know, I wish to
ask your indulgence to explain the justice system further and along the way
provide examples to amplify what I am trying to say. When a person is arrested for breach of any
Law, he/she is brought before a Court.
It is the Court and not the Police which decides whether that person is
remanded in custody or released on bail.
In the case of the Member of Parliament for
In this connection, Mr Speaker, I wish to inform Parliament that the
allegations raised in this Honourable House and outside that the arrest and
remand of some Opposition Members of Parliament was politically motivated have
no foundation and fact and are mere pigmentation of the imaginations of those who raised
them. The truth of the matter is that
what we are seeing here is the justice system actively at work and taking its
course.
Mr Speaker, I will be remiss as the Minister for Police and National
Security if I do not take this opportunity on the floor of Parliament, the
highest depositary of the will of the land, to appeal to all residents of
Honiara and our people throughout the four (4) corners of this Nation to remain
calm and maintain peace in these challenging times. Let us elevate to the higher plane of
co-existence, the cardinal principle of respect-reciprocal respect.
For those of us who call
Mr Speaker, let us respect the principle of natural justice which
governs the ground rules of human survival and existence in a civilized
society. Let us judge a person not by
the colour of the skin, sex or creed but by the content of his or her
character. Let us respect our Nation by
putting national interest before our personal and regional interests.
Mr Speaker, let us respect the Rule of Law. If there are allegations of corruption, there
are institutions in place within the Government machinery to seek redress. These are the Police, the Courts and the
Leadership Code Commission. Taking the
Law into your own hands can only bring you trouble as well as problems to
others.
Finally, Mr Speaker, let us respect and assist the Police in their
challenging task of bringing safety, stability and the security of Honiara and
the Nation at large.
Mr Speaker, as the representative of the hereditary high chiefs of
Small Malaita I have a drop of
Thank you, Mr Speaker.
Mr Speaker: The Chair
subscribes fully to what you have just said.
For purposes of the operation of this Office, however, I hope that you
will bring our message to the Commissioner of Police that our staff need to get
to this office. Some of us have been
turned away from office today and under privileges of Parliament that is
contempt of the House. I hope you will
pass to the Commissioner of Police that in appreciating the arrangement they
are doing they should recognize that staff of Parliament need to get to this
office to do their work. We started a
little bit late this morning because the Clerk has been turned away, because of
the operation. Although they knew she
has given her vehicle number and all these, please bear with us that we need to
serve Parliament business as well and we need to come here on time.
With that I would like to appreciate the
comments raised by the Honourable Minister.
MOTIONS
Hon RINI: I
beg to move that the House do now adjourn.
The House adjourned at